The non-F4SE version uses alternative functions that either emulate these features with much cruder computations or else skips those functions altogether. The Development Process As of v1.432 and in all current versions, PA-NPC does not touch any base records. Your companion got caught in crossfire and shot back. None of these changes should be permanent, and they dont affect melee attacks. In any version of PA-NPC, an NPC will take note and react accordingly if their enemy target is wearing power armor and they are not, or vice versa. Q: When is this going to be expanded to [insert NPC group here]? And even then, most times it holds up just fine, and only once (much earlier version) have I found a stack dump generate a CTD the other times, I didnt even realize it dumped until I checked the log after a test session. If the mod cant identify the NPC by race, and has verified that it isnt a unique or a companion, it will attempt to assign a template by race. No script envolved and no patch requiered. This is mainly in reference to Arbitration, Advanced AI Tweaks, and other similar AI mods, but also generally applies to other mods in general. Get some distance and theyll resume their gunfire if they can. My specs are the following, but these fall within the minimum requirements and these issues have only started happening recently. Q: Does PA-NPC have any required dependencies? Versions 1.6+ (main channel) require F4SE. Through their victories and defeats, the individual NPCs will gain or lose courage, earn command roles, or succumb to revenge rage at the sight of a fallen comrade. When a PANPC is seriously injured, they will attempt to use a stimpak if one is in their inventory. This can happen when you use the Extra Spawn MCM feature. I cant promise that any particular version doesnt break anything. The registrar now attempts to match against two markers instead of one, before clearing the NPC for registration. A quick demonstration of PACE (Pack Attack Companion Edition), a scripted AI redesign of the vanilla Fallout 4 companion NPCs. Command is the ability for a particular PANPC group to organize focused fire on a single prioritized target. Like all other PA-NPCs, Synths now are also liable to run away when seriously damaged, to find other Synths to back them up, or barring that, to hide. Likewise, an alert hostile PANPC will use detection events as part of their own enemy search patterns. PA-NPC is going to likely change the outcome of those. Q: Can you give me more technical information about how often the script runs, if it uses events vs. timers, etc.? Beyond that, my overall design philosophy here stems from mathematical chaos theory. Improved Jet visuals by adding some more sparks and smoke puffs. Sometimes I will refer to a PA-enabled NPC as a PANPC (no hyphen). Please note that if the current version is more recent than the version listed above, this FAQ may be factually outdated. Nothing is required other than the base Fallout 4 game. If they are ranged and on the offensive (usually fighting in the open), their speed goes up and their aim stability goes down. Either a patch, or more likely, an update to PA-NPC that reduces that area of conflict risk. 8. Its designed to be. Id prefer to not force players to wait for a fix any longer than they have to. Many of the best ideas in this mod have come from Nexus users. Once again, if so, let me know and I can either fix it or code around it. Maybe we can hash out something really great. This will usually happen at the end of another evasion move, once the PANPC has collected themselves a bit and is ready to reenter the battle. Q: Is PA-NPC safe to merge with other mods? However, Im usually pretty good at finding and resolving them, so this shouldnt be an issue in most versions. That's supposed to stop your game from crashing? Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Memory: 8192MB RAM (2 sticks, 4g) Processor: AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad-Core GPU: AMD . Sometimes that involves a throwdown. , or even Panic (find a spot away from the heart of combat and RUN THERE). That, and I also had to switch from Mod Organizer to Nexus Mod manager because sadly, the current Mod Organizer for Fallout 4 just does not work. The only way to avoid them is to access the cell where you are getting the CTD, from different direction but if your CTD's are happening as soon as you are getting in combat ( everywhere ), then I guess your problem is not just related to WOTC but to the heavy amount of mods in your game and that probably, they are conflicting to each other . . you are posting your problem but you do not give any information about how powerful your rig is to handle such amount of mods, etc, etc, etc, .. when a CTD happens, there might be dozens of reasons that are causing them, and they could be triggered perhaps because you are running something in the background, anti-virus software running, perhaps your rig is not that powerful, load order, too many mods conflicting to each other, lack of cleaning the master files, etc, etc. Its not my intention to in any way denigrate that work Im standing on those authors shoulders here. The answer is: depends. Ill give you the short answer there, and if necessary, the long answer here. Ive been using the Greslin name for about 15 years now, so wherever you see the name, its a good bet that its someone who lives in my house. About The Author. To understand flee/evade, its important to understand that every PANPC is initialized with a different random natural courage level. For more information, please see our I do have the donation flags set on the mod page, because why not. If youve been using PA since early versions (especially prior to 1.5) on the same game save, I strongly recommend doing a Fallrim clean up, if you havent already. Q: I have a question that you havent answered in this FAQ. Vault-Tec Power Armor by NewerMind43 & Captain-Ultima.esp, 10mm Carbine - Combat Scopes - FH, NW.esp, Trinity Shotgun by NewerMind43 & Captain-Ultima.esp, Crafting Workbenches - Far Harbor DLC.esp, LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp, Crafting Workbenches - Nuka World DLC.esp, Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp, Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp, No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp, BrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.esp, Glorious_Glowing_Plasma_Weapons_by_Diranar.esp. Forged and Rust Devils, for instance, use the Raiders template. (It does nothing, however, to automatically detect and adapt to other mods.). Earlier versions of PA-NPC attached the script statically to actor records, so they were all persistent, which meant none of them were ever cleared out. Im probably at least twice the age of the average Nexus user. This can include locations that were not intended to be accessible to that particular NPC, such as perhaps some of the elevated positions in mods like [url=https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/29735]Diamond City Enhanced Security[/url]. Not that I have the most powerfull machine in the world, mind (i7-3770K on an AsRock Z77 Extreme11 motherboard with 16GB KHX RAM and an AMD MSI RX470 8GB GamingX). 11. . If at some point I can adapt PA-NPC for companions without a major overhaul and compatibility nightmares (my other concern), Im happy to look into it. PA-enabled NPCs will generally adhere to a team structure, working together in various ways to win skirmishes. So no one can promise a flawless playthrough here. The script will then intend to do so by race. Id rather you not, for a variety of reasons. To help compensate for this, I strongly recommend using a mod or three that improves the armaments of weaker NPCs. Most of the non-F4SE players Ive heard from so far have been VR players, so Im trying to limit the amount of experimental code they have to deal with. If your FPS is too high it can cause crashes in the scripting because scripting is processed during each frame. Then the script is dispelled. Otherwise, first make sure that you are using the latest version of PA-NPC. Nothing in the mod alters base records. I think that you are not reading the mod description and posts. A spot for the mods I code for Fallout and other games, last updated 03/31/2018, PANPC v1.66 I Hear Nebraskas Nice update. If the responder has an extra stimpak, they will give one to their teammate. In some situations where the PANPCs confidence has just absolutely shattered, they may fire off a fear effect that results in a panicked run and a cower. Battle Buddies is my solution to countering a more effective flee/evade system. Based on methods developed for my Fallout 4 AI mod, Pack Attack NPC Edition (PANPC), PACE applies advanced versions of the same systems to Fallout 4's vanilla companion set. In the F4SE release channel (1.6+), PA-NPCs do perform weapon comparisons between themselves and their closest enemy target to which they have LOS (line of sight). Almost all of them, with the following exceptions: Any character flagged as unique . Buy cheap games: https://www.g2a.com/r/hodiii Use code "HODI" for some cashbackSupport the channel on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hodi?ty=hRetextures/Vi. Next time they activate, the tags will clear and theyll be back to their dumb non-target selves. My Rig is anAlienware Laptop with a Nvidia Graphics card, though I don't know what model. But I need to be able to verify it firsthand. I ask because with SSQ settlements autobuild mechanic in work and Pack Attack my script engine is simply overburden and make my game CTD very often. Whatever! Terminology note: PA-enabled means an NPC that is operating using Pack Attack logic. Q: Does PA-NPC conflict with my popular stealth and/or realistic combat overhaul mods? Please use Fallrim to clean your save, and then make sure youre updated to the latest version of PA-NPC. Q: Why have my settlers all turned hostile to brahmin suddenly? If more are noncombatants, they will join one of them. No. Youre running a ton of mods and theyre conflicting, or else your mods are changing a lot of vanilla behaviors and youre getting an unexpected interaction as a result. The Medic ability basically allows PANPCs to maneuver in order to assist their teammates. Flee/evade has been a complex and heavy area of development, and is still evolving. . I'll check ENB Boost to see if that helps any (I remember it helping a bit, but it's been ages,) and I'll Run Loot to see if that helps at all. Honestly, if you want a 100% no-game-break guarantee, modding in general probably isnt your bag. Horizon @ Discord is recommended for unanswered questions. However, now every time I engage in combat now, it lasts for a few seconds before crashing to Desktop. But you are. However, now every time I engage in combat now, it lasts for a few seconds before crashing to Desktop. Its an idea best left to a separate mod. As of v1.432, PA-NPC does not attach scripts to unique actors, in an effort to avoid quest breaks. Some are questions that I anticipate. Q: Are the Pack Attack mods compatible with my version of Fallout 4? Q: How does Pack Attack prevent molotov cocktail use indoors? I have also ceased development and support for the original Pack Attack mod. As of v1.432, no base records are edited, and the mod dynamically attaches PA-NPC functionality on the fly. It was ENBoost, now that it's back my game no longer CTD's when in combat. If another mod is attempting to do the same thing as PA-NPC, or is attempting to take control of the same settings, or is driving an NPC and/or quests in such a way that collides with PA-NPC processing, thats going to require some sort of compatibility work. There is also an optional setting (defaulting to OFF) in MCM that provides Medic-enabled actors with a few extra stimpaks when they become PA-enabled. These natural levels also change throughout the combat session, so there will be emerging heroes and cowards among the group. Q: I just found one of my settlements decimated by hostile settlers. Note: PA-NPC does absolutely nothing to alter faction relationships. Either way, youre too close. To learn more about chaos theory, I strongly recommend the book Chaos: The Making Of A New Science by James Gleick. 3. As of the 1.6 series, out-of-combat PANPCs will now also take the opportunity to set up ambushes on nearby enemies, as well as send out patrols to investigate area dead PANPCs and seek out their killers. Talk to the person who wrote the patch. Somethings banging against a scripted scene and/or quest that requires a specific fight to happen a certain way. Versions prior to 1.422 had a bug that, over a long enough period of game play, could lead to substantial save game bloat and ultimately CTDs. This mod is being developed rapidly, and it is very likely that your issue has already been addressed. . 268. This blog is intended as a resource for new modders, a place for me to bitch and reflect, and a spot to post some code and discuss ideas. And theres no such thing as a bug-free computer program, especially when event management is involved. The other possibility is that the random script is being hung up by an infinite loop somewhere. As of v1.63, Feral Ghouls have optional MCM support. They then get a DR boost and another big Courage buff, and go to town in an adrenaline-fueled murder rage. If you are having this problem, please rule out these scenarios before reporting it as a new bug: 1. Q: Ive been using PA-NPC since before 1.422 on the same save game file. I absolutely am, although I reserve the right to reject ideas that either I dont think will work, or that are outside of my envisioned scope of this mod. Hit apply and close Nvidia control panel. . Very occasionally the NPC in question will go catatonic and just wander off somewhere for a nice lie down. Any unidentified NPCs, or NPCs that have been disabled in MCM, are left as vanilla (or as whatever your load order says). Today we take a look at some deleted mods. As of the v1.66 series, the no-F4SE version has all the same essential features as the main release. Specific question can be asked in either one of these; # . But many NPCs are already scripted, many strongly so, and its quite possible that one of those scripts is going to collide with PA-NPC. and our Rather than create effects, Im trying to create conditions that allow surprising effects to emerge on their own. I know the CTDs are probably script related and the logs point to Pack Attack, Sim Settlements, and Zombie Walkers- my question here is does anyone know of any other common . Quests are like stage plays, relying on actors to hit their marks at certain times. As of v1.432, nearly every NPC group in Fallout 4 and the DLCs are PA-enabled. Emergent Effects, WTF Moments, and Chaos In Action In order to avoid quest breaks and other strange game bugs, Ive avoided enabling the PA-NPC script on the uniques and anyone that appears to possibly be quest-critical. I really do think that Raiders are my favorite PA-NPC group. I fall into a game for a few months, play it almost exclusively, eventually get bored and go to the next game in the rotation. I have a lot of fun with them, and theyre my baseline test group. This is likely going to happen often. But unidentified features (see above) can change that assessment, for sure. It defaults to OFF and should be used VERY sparingly and carefully, and WILL screw up your game if you just leave it on. PA-NPC does not attach its script to any unique actor or anyone belonging to CompanionFaction. Just getting back into FO4 and modding my game after about a year away, but after DLing a bunch of mods (and too many hours in FO4Edit) my game has a few hang up points. (The Confidence Man bar fight, for example. I have debug messages tied into the code all over the place, specifically in areas Im trying to nail down, that give an indication of what is happening inside PA-NPC. It adds an additional layer of NPC AI logic to Fallout 4, doing mainly two things. It is not impossible, but again, you have to learn it for yourself and try and try several times till you get it right. As if the 1.6 series, Pack Attack has begun assuming a third role as well: staging director. For example, if a mod creates a new Brahmin NPC but uses a custom race and/or custom factions, the PA-NPC registrar has no way of accurately identifying it. In versions prior to 1.61, an edge case existed where a PANPC with Command ability could have reacted to a friendly target that happened to be tagged as a command target by a similarly abilitied hostile faction, such as the Gunners. Pack Attack was the original prototype of this system, a very limited version that applied strictly to Commonwealth wild dogs. So if theres any sort of conflict there, its a runtime issue in which the combined mods throw your balance off. Q: Which NPCs are altered by PA-NPC? Most hostile canines are. Privacy Policy. PA-NPC should also be compatible with stealth mods that mainly work by changing actor aggro/detect radii. Q: Im seeing lots of PA-NPC script instances in my save file. A near-future version of PA-NPC will include limited support for turrets and brahmin, specifically to reset them to normal aggression. Now, I can do many other things in the game for many hours, and can even complete some quests as long as I run from all combatants, but that is one of the funner things to do in the game, I would rather not lose that ability, any suggestions. Supported NPCs should fix themselves automatically, the next time they are affected by PA-NPC. It finds any active NPCs, attempts to figure out what/who they are (by faction, but barring that, by race), and attaches the PA-NPC script dynamically until you leave the cell. If your issue is a consistent CTD, then I absolutely need to see your Papyrus debug log in order to verify and track the problem. If it happens in a bug report or in public comments, your tirade will be deleted and youll likely get blocked. Scent gets a general scan of the collective wounded status of the other group to decide whether to press the advantage (theyre bleeding! DC Security (and both other friendly guard factions) fight as Minutemen, as do the Triggermen. That having been said, not everything is really a bug, and I would very much appreciate if you could do a bit of leg work before reporting it. If this is a recent PA-NPC version, please report the problem. Should I be concerned? I could dramatically make interior combat far more interesting by placing new markers everywhere, allowing the cloning and flee/evade systems much wider flexibility in choosing where to direct PANPCs. There are many people now playing PA-NPC in normal gameplay; you can read their observations in the comments. For now, its the price were paying for the additional processing logic overhead. I believe that this, combined with an also-fixed bug in the NPC registration system, caused virtually all of the reported insta-hostile issues. I've shown you guys how to make Fallout 4 scary, terrifying, and even a more survivalist experience with the use of Fallout 4 mods. either tamper with specific weapons, ammo, etc. If you prefer a more or even less chaotic, disorganized combat environment, you can alter the Battle Buddies deployment odds in MCM (under Modifiers). ApprehensiveDegree70 2 yr. ago. Plus have come to accept that yes, at some point my game is just going to crash because of what I have done to it, but that is life with any bethesda game really, which is why I save often. Theyre more concerned with the other teams armaments and head counts, plus many other factors. As of the v1.5 series, yes. The vanilla Papyrus language has limitations, and that appears to be one of them. Q: Will PA-NPC eventually support companions? 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