John Lotter and Tom Nissen are currently in prison, with Nissen serving life imprisonment and Lotter facing execution. All involved young men and twenty somethings. and socially was worlds apart. If you think that life of crime, addiction and mental illness is living authentically to masculine gender identity, I pity you. Logic: you say you agree with Jude; Jude says Brandon is male; ergo you say Brandon is male. She also failed to show up for the follow up interview, claiming she was scared and that people were watching the Court building looking for her. Some of that same nonsense is applied to Teenaa case by liberal commentators who cant see the wood for the trees, Marcus, I agree with you one hundred percent. TERRORIZED, Gender is a social construct, hence fluid; sex is an empirical fact, hence fixed Its a shame theres rampant confusion about this (not by you, of course). AND we all know Lana's Mother HATED Brandon. They told him they would silence him permanently if he reported it. He failed to treat her underlying problems (and then a reasonably stabilized person could make a determination what they want). When Lotter and Nissen found out that their recently acquired drinking buddy who was dating Lotter's former flame Lana Tisdel was actually a woman whose real name was Teena Brandon, they became enraged. Sister testified that she lied to Tom Nissen, because Teena asked her to. Quit wasting tax payers money on these disgusting bags of dung. Intellectual is a bit kind: more probably prisoner/murderer fetishism (hybristophilia a paraphilia (ie, sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviours, or individuals) in which sexual arousal/facilitation/attainment of orgasm are responsive to/contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage such as rape or murder.) Her story outraged . What about that so called sheriff. Very tired of hearing this low IQ score crap!! WHERE ARE THEIR SECOND CHANCES AT LIFE??? The biggest problem with the PC Brigade appropriating Teena Brandon as a transgender icon is that they overlook the real person who lived and died. Yes, she became an Issue, much as Matthew Shephard did when he was murdered by two scumbags, after which far more silliness issued. This is the problem with identity politics. One last point, there is a Teena Brandons funeral photo just before her coffin goes into the ground. The killers spared the life of Lamberts baby son, Tanner. Disappointment (excerpt) a 6song, 1 track tribute to Lana Tisdel. People do not talk about it, because they have something to hide. So, all hate crime is crime, but not all crime is a hate crime. She was hurt as a woman, she suffered as a woman, and her murder was a crime of violence against women. Males react differently when subjected to the same. Of itself, Id say that IQ test result is much too crude a basis to determine criminal culpability (and is not used here in UK). [8], Tisdel graduated from Falls City High School in 1993. Normal sexual relations are damaged by the selfish misanthrope pedophiles, and consequently the victims biological sexual identity becomes affiliated with unpleasant experience and the powerlessness of their actual sexual biology as children which becomes dangerously inverted. Hes no Neil deGrasse Tyson, but he speaks distinctly, enunciating evidentiary hearing perfectly well, for example. There is a noteworthy moment. The next article you should look at is Carolyn Gages The Inconvenient Truth About Teena Brandon, which gives a good account of Teenas psychiatric symptoms and why she was hospitalized, and has a great reveal in the end. John Lotter is a very violent criminal. Their reduced circumstances, however, havent stopped the pair from snagging love interests while behind bars. Thanks. In Ca 10 years ago, it cost an extra $90,000 per inmate to imprison someone sentenced to death. When Boys Don't Cry was released, she petitioned Nebraska movie theatre owners to not show the film. After they raped Teena, they told her that they would murder her if she told anyone, and Teena believed them. Donna Minkowitzs Love Hurts celebrates Teena Brandon as a cross-dresser, but if you read carefully, it gives good ringside detail of Teenas street-corner thuggishness and her involvement with the gay male cruising scene. That, then, reflects a capacity to reason, to scheme and to that degree militates against the notion that they should not be considered culpable. For the love of god, call him a he. His ex-pal Thomas Nissen is serving his sentence of life without parole plus 24 years at Lincoln Correctional Center. Nissen drove your car you was passenger to hwy 105 Humboldt, Ne. We all wonder what on earth theyre doing the answer being fetishising the murderous/rapist/criminal object. Lana Tisdel is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the 1993 murder of Brandon Teena was chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry.She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance as Tisdel.. A lot of street, lot of bluster and anger. The bottom line is these men knew she identified as a man. Rather, it was clear to *most* of us. This implies nothing about how people should treat me, which I hope is decently and kindly, while I should be reasonable enough to accept that people cannot be *obliged* to accept and treat me as a woman in the contexts which impinge on their reasonable rights, such as to enjoy private space from males in using the lavatory or bathing (not that by any means all or even most women would be concerned, but some are, thus the clash of competing rights). Based on conversations Teena had with people after the rape, in the car on the way from the hospital and with her sister, emotionally, Teena Brandon was a girl, as opposed to bring a mature woman. Apparently there is Teenas prison letter to Lana, where Teena is morosely doing time, pacing the cell and doing push ups and chin ups. BE GONE! Read an update on Lana Tisdel and her mother. He gets visibly upset and his voice goes up a couple of notches, like somebody grabbed him by the balls, when he starts talking about his death sentence. I have to agree. Your email address will not be published. Honestly thats what I had thought all these years. But they raped her, the one thing men do to assert dominance and humiliation. Was she taking steroids for transition? However, their two-month relationship is described as very intense. Struggle to survive. The last time Lana Tisdels name came up in the press was the year 2000, when she settled a lawsuit with movie distributor Searchlight Pictures for an undisclosed sum. After moving into the home of Lisa Lambert, Teena began dating her friend, 19-year-old Lana Tisdel, and began associating with ex-convicts John L. Lotter (born May 31, 1971) and Marvin Thomas "Tom" Nissen (born October 22, 1971). Lana's relationship status is single. Kinda goes against the public myth, I know. R: Fourteen states have no minimum age at which children can be prosecuted as adults, according to the Equal Justice Initiative. Unfortunately Teena Brandon was the indigent patient under state care, and all they did, was giver her a handout about trans people. Teena Brandon liked to make people laugh and could work an audience. She was wounded in a stabbing attack by an ex-husband and supported her family on a monthly disability check of less than $400, according to an account by writer Eric Konigsberg, who grew up in Omaha. Them low life murders will have to answer to god and he awaits. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. There are widely circulating and well documented accounts of how Teena Brandon was blowing off her probation officers, John Dunne recounts one such story where Teena made an excuse saying that she had to go help with a certain aunt. AM LOOKING FOR CLEAN, SAFE, See the difference? Swank won her first Best Actress Oscar for her portrayal of Brandon Teena, a real-life transgender man who was the victim of a hate crime in 1993. Tisdel was shocked, said her mother. Teenas circumstances shout psychosocial mess. What I specifically reject is the notion she was somehow MORE victim or SPECIAL victim cos identity politics says she is via claiming it was a hate crime (hate crime attracting greater censure and punishment than the equivalent non-hate crime). Her kidnapping, rape, and murder was a lot more brutal in real life, because the two were a lot closer to her than the film portrays. He is not getting away from her! A large number of hobos watched and testified, but none stopped this murder. I am not just saying the way you are saying it, he he trans he. The problem lies in *demand* of the use of the likes of pronouns by or for those whove had a sex change, and the further stance that this is authentic change of sex (rather than gender). Falls City is a small town, and all of these families were well-acquainted; Lana's best friend was Michelle Lotter, John's sister. Look at her mugshot. She also got him in trouble with adults and later every reason that they sucked up to her turned out to be a lie. Pretty as ever. Tisdel has made it clear that her relationship with Brandon Teena was brief and did not include sex; only lasting about two months from their first meeting until the murder. I AM UNDER CONSTANT If you really want to honor someone, you should use their correct name. En dcouvrant la vrit sur Teena, ce dernier entre dans une rage meurtrire. There, he befriended ex-convicts John L. Lotter and Marvin Thomas "Tom" Nissen. An Update on John Lotter and Thomas Nissen. Lisa Lambert did not associate with them and lived a town away. Peirce met with Lana Tisdel, the woman Brandon Teena fell for, and eventually secured her life rights. Teena Brandon was great, because she had a personal strength ethic of heroic proportions. A few days later, on New Year's Eve 1993, Lotter and Nissen came to the Tisdel residence drunk and looking for Brandon, and threatened the Tisdel sisters. Its absolutely in the public/taxpayers/prisons/other prisoners interests to foster as functioning an inmate as possible, which is why much effort is made to enable inmates to communicate with families. Downtown: Brandon Teena's Tragic Story. (Her husband was John Gregory Dunne and like, Dominick Dunne, he left us too soon, unfortunately.). Thereafter Teena actively cooperated, helping the police find the location of the rape, which was ten miles away and out in the dark. Lana : Yeah, well, you'd be cranky, too, Mister I'm Going To Memphis Graceland Tennessee, if you were stuck in a town where there's nothing to do but go bumper skiing and chase bats every night of your evil fucking life. Its not clear what type of work she does or whether she and her husband are still together. Its an example of the distortion created by PC. Second, read the account of Teena and her gay cousins in the Village Voice article, then see her gay cousins testimony in the Brandon Teena story how Teena would disappear for a couple of hours and come back with food, $200 $300, and it would be his. It allows the individuals that commit violent crimes to be glamorized, to feel gratitude for the crimes they committed. And while arguments good, those incapable of engaging with argument resort to assertion and moral coercion: If you disagree with me youre mean/nasty/inhumane Thats dross. Teena's new group of friends in the area included 17-year-old Lana Tisdel, her older sister Leslie, Lana's ex-boyfriend (and former convict) John Lotter, and his pal Marvin Nissen. His story of how they murdered Teena also evolves with his demented ego. In addition, Teena was mysogynistic in her abhorrence of womanhood. He feet wouldnt hold her weight. Sevigny is best known for her role as Lana Tisdel in the film Boy's Don't Cry as well as Jean in American Psycho . his pronouns are he/him and you need to respect that, as well as his name. Lana Tisdel testified in Court that she saw both, Teena Brandon and Tom Nissen, for the first time at the Oasis Bar, and it appears that the two were there together. I would give identity politics more credence had Teena not been a psychiatric patient with severe symptoms other than gender dysphoria. After sentencing, prices continue to rise. Had this been in the military, it would have been seen as great military bearing, instead we have a defiant mug shot. In addition to stabbing and shooting Brandon, whom they found hiding beneath a blanket in a farmhouse in Humboldt, the duo murdered witnesses Lisa Lambert, 24, and Phillip Devine, 22. She corrected him and told him that she was Teena. A lot of women join military and jump out of airplanes, and most of them are not LGBTQ. Court documents indicate that people were afraid of Lotter, that he terrorized his local community. He has kept busy with appeals, all rejected, over the years and recently came up with a new defense tack that the state cant execute him because hes retarded. They accepted him, except they didnt. Both him and Nissen deserve a bullet to the back of the head, and it would be a kindness. Also in the house was Phillip DeVine, a friend of theirs who was dating Tisdel's sister Leslie. WAY, WAY , WAY BEYOND REHABILITATION!! Thank you, Marcus. thats literally transphobic. CONCERNED Teena was trying to join the U.S. Army as a radio communications technician, and she would have done well in the military, she had leadership potential. I have seen it occur before. Everyone. Ive watched the entire worlds moral compass go south and its by design. Certain things ptecipitated violence that had nothing to do with transphobia. Being slow, stupid or whatever is in principle different from moral indifference. He was a rich kid. Teena says that Nissen pulled her pants off but did not grope her. You are correct in that the need for meaningful conversation is now, more than ever, necessary but unable to happen. When I say that Teena Brandon was awesome, I mean it. She wanted to leave Humboldt since Dec 28 and cops were okay with it. You can try to twist your own transphobic narrative on this subject all you want, but Brandon exemplified in every way the accepted psycbosocial identity of a trans personhe lived and loved as a man at a time when transgender identities were dismissed and vilified as some sort of carnival sideshow or transgressive pervert, and ultimately that is why he was killedby ignorance arguably no different than your own. I dont consider it possible to change sex, and those who do must acknowledge that the matter is at least controversial. She then became a reluctant witness, not willing to implicate Nissen and get him arrested. The Tisdel family appeared on the TV shows Maury and A Current Affair, to discuss Brandon Teena and the trial proceedings. The relevant question here is whether justice failed due to Sheriffs incompetence or because Nissen was able to intimidate his victims successfully. (Its down for now.). Was it because they thought it the right thing to do? Teena was new to the close-knit area, from Lincoln, Nebraska, and the local crowd was curious about him. The man never showed remorse and would do it again because he judged Teena as deserving of what they did to her. I take it you like to think for yourself, too? Lotter, Nissen and Brandon. He got into drunken trouble again and his parents did not bail him out of jail. They deserve the death sentence, regardless. HIT BY THAT I tried Facebook to look for someone on both sides but they dont want to talk about it anymore! You people love to ignore using his correct prounons like one way to respect him is use HE AND HIM. How else could Tom and John have founded Brandon at Lisa? I WAS TOLD, He was in fact a transgender man: assigned female at birth. He does not mix up Teena Brandon with identity politics and offers the most information. They are undeniably, extremely guilty. I think this probably places me somewhat at odds with trans rights but such disagreement makes the world a more interesting and stimulating, if less superficially harmonious, place (though human nature might demand that disagreements in our genes and wed simply find other issues over which to disagree for those that cease to be per consensus) Nor do I think the concept of hate crime is coherent, so that probably places me at some distance from minority rights. While Im mindful that biological sex is fixed and significant (in the face of PC dross denying), I presume BT would wish to be referred to as male, and it seems churlish not to do so. Later on, kids go through a period of adjustment, but most people remain true to themselves on some level. She has a daughter and two sons and at least one grandchild. AFFORDABLE, People traumatized by torture suffer in a certain way when they realize that they are going to be tortured again, and Lotter noticed and attempted to describe it, without knowing what it is. How self-serving and ignorant can you get? A middle aged middle class man joined them and drank their beer and whiskey and ate the grilled steak with them. Nobody knows he is a repeat rapist who has raped other women before he got busted for triple murder. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. It possible to change sex, and most of them are not LGBTQ at life???! 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